Cat deaths linked to Orijen

[GreyGhost]

I wonder how long it will take them to own up to this and how many animals will have to die because they are too lax and like to try lie their way out of any problems with their foods.

I am totally disgusted and shame on them for jerking people around yet again.

I would love to see reports on the US cats getting sick in the media. Maybe if this gets news attention then more vets will find similar symptoms and this can be stopped before it gets too big and harmful.

[GreyGhost]

While stating cats are sick on this food w/out giving links to these confirmed reports he hocks his own product....kind of fishy in my view....and feels like IMHO a play on people's emotions......

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I'm going to check out the website on the supplement. How long have you been using it?

[Perseus]

I think the concern here is that salinomycin changes properties after it's irradiated; therefore the testing for it may not involve the standard lab tests. Also, since irradiation changes the chemical make up of salinomycin, the way it's metabolized by the cat's body may also be altered. It seems to me like Champion may want to bring in experts in this field of chemistry rather than relying on standard lab tests.

I know they said the food tested negative for salinomycin, and I certainly don't want to sound negative, but because of the irradiation process we're really looking for a needle in a haystack at this point in time. Many chemical properties are changed after being irradiated. I know Orijen pulled out of the Australian market, but there are other pet foods being imported and being irradiated that we're not even aware of who they are still.

[TAZ]

...I would love to see reports on the US cats getting sick in the media....

The "doctor" has apparently acknowledged that his report was NOT accurate.....

I use Orijen, so I have all my radar going full tilt.......nothing, nil, NADA on the screen.

Popular cat discussion forums frequently have threads titled: "mysterious illness...Vet doesn't know/can't help".....yet, NONE to date for these symptoms.

Vigilant, yes. Panicked, NO.

[robfdavis1971]

While stating cats are sick on this food w/out giving links to these confirmed reports he hocks his own product....kind of fishy in my view....and feels like IMHO a play on people's emotions......

P.P.S. You can try my New Supplement- Certified Toxin
Free because it is 3rd party tested-
Dr Jones’ Ultimate Canine Health Formula
for HALF OFF by going here:

http://www.thedogsupplement.com


I'm going to check out the website on the supplement. How long have you been using it?

I don't actually use the supplements - I was poking fun that the doctor was stating issues in the US and then on the same page hocking his own wares....  :-)

[coontuffy]

From a poster today on the internetpetvet.
No retraction by the Doctor as of yet.

5CatMom is a member of this forum

Helen McNicholas Says:
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:20 am
I have been feeding my cat the Orijen dry food. Just this week, he started with some weakness, wobbliness in one of his back legs. Walking with a noticeable limp. Only walks a short distance before he lays down again. Doesn’t seem in pain. Meows when I examine the le, hip etc. Now I am very anxious if indeed this may be due to the Orijen. I had been on the phone to the vet already about his limping with no history of any kind of injury as he is an inside cat only.

5CatMom Says:
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:25 am
Helen,

Hope your kitty will be OK. Where are you located? Outside Australia?

Also, would you please call Champion and let them know about your kitty? Ask for Clark or Michelle, as they are currently working on this.

In Alberta, their number is: 780 939-6888

They’re doing lots of testing and exchanging information with pet owners on two forums, that I know of.

If you’re not in Australia, I believe they would be interested.

[GreyGhost]

...I would love to see reports on the US cats getting sick in the media....

The "doctor" has apparently acknowledged that his report was NOT accurate.....

I use Orijen, so I have all my radar going full tilt.......nothing, nil, NADA on the screen.

Popular cat discussion forums frequently have threads titled: "mysterious illness...Vet doesn't know/can't help".....yet, NONE to date for these symptoms.

Vigilant, yes. Panicked, NO.

That is good that you have no problems and I really hope you don't or anyone else, but apparently there are problems. I'm not convinced about orijen being up front or anything else. I have been there before with them.

There are too many "ifs" for me to ever be comfortable feeding this food ever again. I myself am happy I stitched a long time ago. 2 major problems in over a 2 month period bothers me.  Not to mention the huge recall they had a few years ago. Panicked no but there are many that missed alot during the recalls last year. The subtly and the symptoms not showing after a long time. I myself would rather be safe than sorry. i will not take any chances with my dog ever again. I will not trust anyone that can't come clean and tell the truth "always".

[GreyGhost]

From a poster today on the internetpetvet.
No retraction by the Doctor as of yet.

5CatMom is a member of this forum

Helen McNicholas Says:
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:20 am
I have been feeding my cat the Orijen dry food. Just this week, he started with some weakness, wobbliness in one of his back legs. Walking with a noticeable limp. Only walks a short distance before he lays down again. Doesn’t seem in pain. Meows when I examine the le, hip etc. Now I am very anxious if indeed this may be due to the Orijen. I had been on the phone to the vet already about his limping with no history of any kind of injury as he is an inside cat only.

5CatMom Says:
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:25 am
Helen,

Hope your kitty will be OK. Where are you located? Outside Australia?

Also, would you please call Champion and let them know about your kitty? Ask for Clark or Michelle, as they are currently working on this.

In Alberta, their number is: 780 939-6888

They’re doing lots of testing and exchanging information with pet owners on two forums, that I know of.

If you’re not in Australia, I believe they would be interested.

Thanks for the post. I have a feeling this is not contained in Australia only and I have a feeling there is something going on with orijen.

With that being said there are many causes for neurological problems. I hope she stops the food and see's if there is any improvement.

[GreyGhost]

While stating cats are sick on this food w/out giving links to these confirmed reports he hocks his own product....kind of fishy in my view....and feels like IMHO a play on people's emotions......

P.P.S. You can try my New Supplement- Certified Toxin
Free because it is 3rd party tested-
Dr Jones’ Ultimate Canine Health Formula
for HALF OFF by going here:

http://www.thedogsupplement.com


I'm going to check out the website on the supplement. How long have you been using it?

I don't actually use the supplements - I was poking fun that the doctor was stating issues in the US and then on the same page hocking his own wares....  :-)

I get it. I just looked at it.

[Perseus]

Champion Petfoods just came out with another press release/update:

http://www.championpetfoods.com/orijen/Australia_Consumer_Release_Dec3.pdf

Doesn't really say anything we didn't know before, I wonder why they even bother.  No new test results for toxins, packaging testing results not released yet.

I don't know why they don't do an official recall of the dog food, it's still only the cat food although they say they have removed all the dog food from the shelves.

[GreyGhost]

The link won't come up for me. When I click on it it says page may have been removed and the usual stuff when a page is gone.

[GreyGhost]

http://www.championpetfoods.com/Australia_Consumer_Release_Dec3.pdf

I was able to read it here. It doesn't add much except like you said removing dog food also.

It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. They blew it with me a while ago and I'm so glad. I would not want to have to worry about this.

They are saying months to get reports. Thats a long time.

[Bonkers]

    In actuality, even though they say no toxins were found, how is one to know whether this is even accurate information? They could have found something and just elected to not go public with the information. Just Sayin.......

[GreyGhost]

    In actuality, even though they say no toxins were found, how is one to know whether this is even accurate information? They could have found something and just elected to not go public with the information. Just Sayin.......

They have done it before why not? I don't trust anything they say.

[robfdavis1971]

There was one person that wrote they had been feeding Orijen for a week and then symptoms occurred.....I'm not sure I trust that post. The cats that got sick had eaten the food for awhile and then off the food - it took quite some time for the symptoms to show. This is the Internet....so I don't believe EVERYTHING I read. Not saying the person lied....but I don't know who this person is and have they contacted Champion Pet Food and did they go to the Vet and what were the results? Is there evidence to prove any of what they say?

I have to give Champion the benefit of the doubt. We don't know they have done anything underhanded. I learned that companies, just like when Natures Variety had issues with their food, that these folks really do care and are trying to do what is best....sometimes bad things happen and we should not be so quick to crucify them. I know over the last year I was a little harsh to some companies with issues. But I've decided it is best to let the facts speak for themselves and not "guess in public" when we are not 100% sure. I mean, how would we like it if our names were drug through the dirt when all the facts were not known? Sure I don't make dog food or cat food but I think some of the posts on here have gone over the top.

I do hope that anyone's cat that is potentially impacted by this will:

(1) Get the cat to the Vet and get diagnosed and treated
(2) Contact Champion Pet Food with your Vet
(3) Express your experience once the FACTS are known - sometimes cats do get sick for other reasons besides irridated cat food!

Just my two cents.

Thanks!

Robert