Musings on Cancer

[kaffe]

Here's a website I've referred to often about the advantages of feeding a raw diet:

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/animals.htm

Quite a few well known vets are quoted, along with good info on enzymes that are lacking in processed foods, along with good info for humans, too!

Check back often on this site as it's continually updated.

I have visited this site very very often in the past when researching stuff for cats...  you're right that it has a lot of really helpful information... my only complaint about the site is its "dizziness"    Shirly could really do a better job re-designing her website!

[kaffe]

Question:  How and where do cats acquire H. Pylori?

[Bonkers]

  From what I can tell, it is usually transmitted thru saliva, feces, vomit or contaminated water. http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB/Proceedings/PR05000/PR00117.htm       http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2006&PID=15822&Category=2674&O=Generic

[GreyGhost]

This site is awesome and should answer any questions about Helicobacter bacteria.

http://www.helico.com/h_history.html

[Therese]

Interesting stuff...I just wish the docs who treated my Dad year's ago would have known this stuff. Dad had ulcers for years then ended up with stomach cancer. By the time they found the cancer it was too late.

As for the raw food and cancer, I'm convinced my dog Lydia's cancer would have grown faster had she been on commercial food. She and Archie have eaten raw for most of their lives.

 

[kaffe]

Thanks, Bonkers and GreyGhost! Kaffe used to drink from a rather dirty pond when we were in Manila long time ago... maybe he got it from there?

[kaffe]

Interesting stuff...I just wish the docs who treated my Dad year's ago would have known this stuff. Dad had ulcers for years then ended up with stomach cancer. By the time they found the cancer it was too late.

As for the raw food and cancer, I'm convinced my dog Lydia's cancer would have grown faster had she been on commercial food. She and Archie have eaten raw for most of their lives.

 

Yes --- but apparently "they" only made the connection between H. Pylori and gastric ulcers a few years ago.  In prior years, people thought ulcers were caused by stress and spicy foods.

I also can't help wondering if Kaffe went into some kind of remission last year after he transitioned from commercial to raw food... I guess I'll never really know.

[Therese]

You're absolutely right...the docs blamed Dad's ulcers on just that...stress and spicy foods, as well as greasy food. I guess it's kinda like you and Kaffe...if they knew then what we know now, what could have been?

[kaffe]

Poor quality petfood also contributes to cancer, I don't doubt.  Before 2007, I used to feed Kaffe whatever was available and from 2003 to early 2007, I fed mostly grocery brand petfood.  I shake my head now but really, like so many other pet parents, I trusted the big petfood companies who've been making petfood for decades.  Who was I to question them?  It seems that at least one vet agrees with me that poor quality petfood is a contributing factor to the development of cancer in pets.

http://www.thedogsupplement.com



BTW - in the link above, the good 'ol controversial vet is offering his special doggie vitamins for free --- should you be interested.

[Bonkers]

   I agree with you Kaffe, I have always thought that it is most likely from all the artificial colorings, preservatives, and by products that seem to be in most of the big box or grocery store brands.   Yucky stuff!!!! 

[GreyGhost]

I know I had no idea about any of this until Misty got it and Doc (her holistic vet) mentioned it and told me to look it up. All 6 or 7 at the time when I worked at the clinic never once mentioned helicobacter bacteria. All the tests we ran and the radiographs and all they could come up with was there's nothing wrong. We can't find anything. I was stunned by my research and could not believe more vets and doctors didn't know about this. Especially since its not some new bacteria. Geez. A nurse friend of mine said they have to do continuing education every year. Doctors are not required to. Thats scary. Vet techs have also have to take continuing education and vets do not. I think thats alittle backwards. Anyone working on that level with animals and people should have to take some classes every year to learn about the new stuff. Of course thats just my opinion.

[kaffe]

I agree with you that everyone working in the medical field whether on people or animals should be on continuing education --- I thought medical journals etc was supposed to address that --- I mean, doctors and vets could read the articles (which are never really that long) and catch up on the latest research and stuff...

[kaffe]

   I agree with you Kaffe, I have always thought that it is most likely from all the artificial colorings, preservatives, and by products that seem to be in most of the big box or grocery store brands.   Yucky stuff!!!! 

God forgive me but I used to give Kaffe that nasty 9-Lives rotated with Friskies... 9-Lives has artificial coloring and BHT if I recall... and I never ever looked up those ingredients until the petfood recall. 

[Bonkers]

  Ah Kaffe, Most of us used to feed our pets cwappy foods. It was not untill Jasper developed his IBD 4 years ago that I began my quest to learn about pet foods. What boggles my mind is the amount of people who still feed cwap to their pets.........

[kaffe]

I guess I would be feeling a lot worse if I didn't try to do something about what I fed my cats... maybe it came a mite late for my sweetestheart Kaffe, but I do not grieve as one who has no hope... now I don't swallow the "word of the experts" without doing some of my own checking... makes me a bit of a pain in the a** of vets and animal nutritionists, I know  ... but they've fooled me once to many times...