Solid Gold Katz-N-Flocken

[Caylynn]

Has anyone used this food?

I haven't tried it yet, but have an unopened bag that I hope to try before we move back to Canada.  My cat currently is fed a very high-quality EU food, but when we move back to Canada, I will no longer be able to purchase the foods he currently eats.

Mysiamese.com recommends Katz-N-Flocken.  http://www.mysiamese.com/catfood.html  Her cats seem to be thriving on it. Anyone else have any experiences?

[cindiincincy]

We've just started using this and so far it's a hit. We had been using Felidae dry to supplement canned food but with all that's happened we wanted to have another dry option.

So at the beginning of the week I got a bag of Katz-N-Flocken and a bag of Back to Basics and put out separate bowls of each mixed with the Felidae. We've got four cats, and they all preferred the Katz-N-Flocken -- they didn't touch the bowl with Back to Basics.

I'm no expert on nutritional content, so it's good to hear a cat site recommended it!

[rchow]

I am looking around for quality dry food that has low phosphorus, low sodium and moderate protein (for older cat with kidney "wear and tear").  I checked out Solid Gold Katz-N-Flocken.  I sent an email to the company for info and a few days later, they forwarded me the nutritional facts for the Solid Gold Katz-n-Flocken Cat Food.  To my surprise, the phosphorus % (1.8%) is the highest % I have found doing my cat food comparision.


   As-      Dry            
Nutrient   Fed   Unit   Matter   Unit   Energy    Basis   
                        
Moisture   8.5    %                  
Protein   34.7    %   37.9    %   10.1    g/100 kcals
Fat   12.0    %   13.1    %   3.5    g/100 kcals
Omega-6    2.4    %   2.6    %   0.7    g/100 kcals
Omega-3    0.4    %   0.4    %   0.1           g/100 kcals
Ash   8.4    %   9.2    %   2.5    g/100 kcals
Fiber   2.8    %   3.1    %   0.82    g/100 kcals
Carbohydrate33.6    %   36.7    %   9.8    g/100 kcals
Arginine   2.01    %   2.20    %   0.59    g/100 kcals
Histidine   0.77    %   0.84    %   0.23    g/100 kcals
Isoleucine1.25    %   1.37    %   0.37    g/100 kcals
Leucine   2.44    %   2.67    %   0.71    g/100 kcals
Lysine   1.65    %   1.81    %   0.48    g/100 kcals
Methionine Cystine   1.24 %   1.35    %   0.36    g/100 kcals
Phenylalanine-Tyrosine2.30 %   2.52         %   0.67    g/100 kcals
Threonine   1.28    %   1.40    %   0.38    g/100 kcals
Tryptophan0.31    %   0.34    %   0.09    g/100 kcals
Valine   1.58    %   1.72    %   0.46    g/100 kcals
Linoleic Acid1.70    %   1.86    %   0.50    g/100 kcals
Calcium   2.20    %   2.40    %   0.64    g/100 kcals
Phosphorus1.80    %   1.97    %   0.53    g/100 kcals
Calcium:Phosphorus   1.2:1.0                     
Magnesium0.14    %   0.15    %   41    mg/100 kcals
Sodium   0.39    %   0.43    %   0.11    g/100 kcals
Potassium0.69    %   0.75    %   0.20    g/100 kcals
Chloride   0.47    %   0.51    %   0.14    g/100 kcals
Copper   20    mg/kg   22    mg/kg   0.58    mg/100 kcals
Iron   150    mg/kg   164    mg/kg   4.4    mg/100 kcals
Manganese17    mg/kg   19    mg/kg   0.5    mg/100 kcals
Zinc   135    mg/kg   148    mg/kg   3.9    mg/100 kcals
Iodine   3.0    mg/kg   3.3    mg/kg   0.1    mg/100 kcals
Selenium   0.50    mg/kg   0.55    mg/kg   0.015    mg/100 kcals
Vitamin A   15,000    IU/kg      16,393    IU/kg      439    mg/100 kcals
Vitamin D   1,050    IU/kg      1,148    IU/kg      31    mg/100 kcals
Vitamin E   150    IU/kg      164    IU/kg      4.4    mg/100 kcals
Thiamine (B1)   47    mg/kg      51    mg/kg      1.37    mg/100 kcals
Riboflavin (B2)   12.0    mg/kg   13.1    mg/kg      0.35    mg/100 kcals
Pyridoxine (B6)   13.0    mg/kg      14.2    mg/kg      0.38    mg/100 kcals
B12   0.15    mg/kg      0.16    mg/kg      4.4    mcg/100 kcals
Folic Acid   3.1    mg/kg      3.4    mg/kg      0.09    mg/100 kcals
Niacin   180    mg/kg      197    mg/kg      5.3    mg/100 kcals
Pantothenic Acid   24.0    mg/kg      26.2    mg/kg      0.70    mg/100 kcals
Biotin   0.31    mg/kg      0.34    mg/kg      0.01    mg/100 kcals
Choline   2,400    mg/kg      2,623    mg/kg      70    mg/100 kcals
Taurine   0.20    %                  
Metabolizable Energy (ME)   3,419    kcal/kg (based on Atwater Calculation)                  
ME/cup   339    kcal/cup                  
Product Density   3.5    oz./cup                  
Urine pH   6.2-6.4                     

[Geff]

As I posted in the blog, several weeks ago my cat got very sick from a sample bag of this food. Diarrhea, urinating in the living room & extreme lethargy. His vet chose to take a blood sample, there was no kidney damage. However, my cat ate very little of the SG, he got sick within a few hours & I took him off it immeadiately.

A friend's cat also got sick after a longer period of SG ( a week or 2). They still don't have a definate diagnosis, but the cat remains quite sick.

This food is made by Diamond. I'd suggest reading the various threads out there on Diamond; Diamond seems to make Menu look like an honest company by comparison.

[garypen]

I don't know about Diamond being less trustworthy than Menu. However, American Nutrition definitely is.

[alek0]

I also heard on another board of cats getting sick from Solid Gold dry. I used to feed that before and I was happy with it, but I don't dare to anymore.

[TinaB]

I just picked up a bag and will give it a try.  I talked to another girl who has been using it for a couple of weeks and said she is already seeing a big improvement in their coats.  I don't know what she was using before.

[TinaB]

I do need a low phosphorus dry food for my seniors if anyone has suggestions.  I am switching them right now from Chicken Soup for the Cat Lover's Soul  to California Natural and they seem to like it.   I checked my CRF Yahoo group files and it said that CN was fairly low in phos but I didn't actually check with the company yet.   If someone knows, I would appreciate it.
Tina

[garypen]

Is .79% low? That's what the analysis of the CN Chicken n Rice on their website says. I have no idea if that's low or high. OTOH, the Herring and Sweet Potato is 1.23%, so I imagine that .79 is low?

[Geff]

At least on these boards. Cal Nat dry food seems to be a big winner in this (deservedly so!)

[kaffe]

I have been giving my two kitty-boys Katz-N-Flocken mixed with other wet and dry foods for more than a month now.  Both cats seem to like it and have experienced no adverse reactions.  My kibble-addict cat has heaps of energy, glossy, soft coat, bright eyes, etc and he is the one who eats most of the Katz-N-Flocken. 

[rchow]

Regarding phosphorus contents... other than the veterinary renal diets (< 0.79%), California Natural has the lowest phosphorus content (.79%) I have found so far.  The CN Herring formula has like 1.23% , which I think is high if you are looking for low phosphorus content dry food.  I have seen contents level in commerial cat dry food ranges from .79% - 1.46%.

A few brands that I have found which has lower phosphorus (<.95%):
- California Natural Chicken and Rice Cat Dry (.79%)
- Fromm 4-star Salmon Cat Dry (0.80%)
- Fromm Senior Gold Cat Dry (0.80%)
- Innova Reduced Fat Cat Dry (.95%)
- Life Abundance Cat Dry (.80%)
- Wysong's Geriatrx Cat Dry (~.80% or so, but I haven't confirmed this with the company)

Based on availability in my area (Dallas), I use Fromm's 4-star Salmon and also try to introduce my cats to California Natural Chicken and Rice.