Recall: Nature's Variety Chicken Formula Raw Frozen Diet

[GreyGhost]

I think they make them up as they go. If they like you its all good if not your banned. It is a shame used to be a good site.

[robfdavis1971]

I am satisfied at how NV responded to the issue. They did good at getting the news out there quickly.

[Bonkers]

There have been other raw pet foods who have had isolated instances regarding the possiblility of salmonella contamination. I think Wild Kitty and Bravo both issued recalls a few years ago. In both instances the companies were quick to react.

I know that this is something that those who are skeptical or completely against feeding raw are probably quick to point out, but salmonella contamination has occurred in numerous other pet and human foods. There is always a chance of contamination or error when dealing with any type of meat or processed food.

I am happy to read that Nature's Variety is now implementing a "test and hold" procedure prior to releasing any future raw food for sale to the public.

[robfdavis1971]

Good point - dry has also been contaminated before too. And just because the area of the batch that was pulled for testing comes back negative, it would certainly be possible for other areas of that same batch that wasn't tested to be infected. Nothing is 100%

I like this article by a friend of mine:  http://doggybytes.ca/salmonella-story-series-bacteria/2755/

It is part of a series he wrote on Salmonella and feeding raw.

While Salmonella is of serious concern for those that have weakened immune systems, the elderly, etc. good hygiene practices when handling any raw meat should keep anyone from getting sick and shouldn't deter someone from feeding a raw diet. Dogs, unless they have a compromised system to begin with, can generally handle bacteria just fine. Here is a study where the scientists try to give dogs salmonella and was only successful when given through an IV!

http://doggybytes.ca/salmonella-story-series-dogs-contract-salmonellosis/2781/

[GreyGhost]

There have been other raw pet foods who have had isolated instances regarding the possiblility of salmonella contamination. I think Wild Kitty and Bravo both issued recalls a few years ago. In both instances the companies were quick to react.

I know that this is something that those who are skeptical or completely against feeding raw are probably quick to point out, but salmonella contamination has occurred in numerous other pet and human foods. There is always a chance of contamination or error when dealing with any type of meat or processed food.

I am happy to read that Nature's Variety is now implementing a "test and hold" procedure prior to releasing any future raw food for sale to the public.

I am glad too. From what I hear NV is now implementing the HPP (High Pressure Pasteurization) process that it has used in their freeze dried. So now there will be no chance of this happening again. So the Freeze Dried and Raw will now be HPP. This is good news and glad they are doing it quickly.

[robfdavis1971]

That is AWESOME news!!!!

[tomp]

My information has been borne out by the expanded recall announcement today.  Enough said.

[Bonkers]

Since most of us here were unable to read your posts from Itchmo, I have no idea what your "information" was concerning your sources from Nature's Variety.

We had hoped that you would retrurn and expound on that information along with how you obtained it, but you never bothered to do so.

Just because they expanded the recall does not necessarily cause me to conclude that any information you had was correct.

[Perseus]

tomp, the way I read and understand the updated recall notice is:  NV is recalling all of the known raw chicken products left since they introduced the new process, they don't want to take any chances; they only want to sell products that have been through the new process.  It's not a notice of additional products that are contaminated.

I think NV is doing more than the right thing and much more than other pfc's.  I'd like to know what you personally, as an individual, have against NV?

[GreyGhost]

Perseus:  You are correct. They decided to take no chances and pull all the Chicken and Organic Chicken. The new HPP food should be available in about 2 weeks.

I am glad they decided to do this. Now we know that they care about the pets. They had no reason and did not have to pull the remaining product. They did it to be safe and so that we as consumers would not have to worry about it anymore.

TomP:
You obviously have something against this company. Maybe "you" are the disgruntled employee you talk about over at the other sites. Since you would not or "could" not produce any proof to your allegations I have to say that I myself do not think your statements hold any water.  I'll go a step further and say that in my opinion nothing you say has any merit.  You may have fooled others elsewhere, but we here are a lot smarter than that. We are very informed and very research minded. We are also level headed and manage to weed out the the bull.

[Perseus]

Enough said.

[tomp]

Apparently, the moderator chose not to post, or removed, the post I submitted yesterday.  I guess you can dish it out but not take it.

Note that NV's expanded recall notice referenced positive salmonella tests on two date codes that were not included in the initial recall.

[Perseus]

Apparently, the moderator chose not to post, or removed, the post I submitted yesterday.  I guess you can dish it out but not take it.

Note that NV's expanded recall notice referenced positive salmonella tests on two date codes that were not included in the initial recall.

No, it did not state the notice referenced positive salmonella.  Here is the press release from NV:
"LINCOLN, Neb., March 8 /PRNewswire/ — Nature’s Variety has expanded its voluntary recall of Chicken Formula Raw Frozen Diets for dogs and cats to include the “Best If Used By” dates of 10/29/10 and 11/9/10 because these products may be contaminated with Salmonella."
"May be" does not mean "it is".  The moderator here will remove all false information to keep this forum fair and balanced.  No one here is "dishing" it out except for you.

[Bonkers]

tomp

In no way, shape or form were you verbally attacked on this forum. Questioned yes, attacked no.

If you should have any questions pertaining as to why your post was removed please refer to the Forum Member Guidelines or contact me personally via pm.

Now I would like to know where exactly you found this info that states there was salmonella found in the recently withdrawn batches. Looking at Nature's Variety's statement I do see anything in it that states this.

[robfdavis1971]

I for one am glad that NV is doing a good thing here. You can't please everyone and I'm sure NV isn't losing any sales from people who apparently aren't buying anyway. NV is focusing on their customers and providing a safer alternative to something we all knew was a risk with raw foods - bacteria. We handle raw meats in our homes (those that eat meat) and I hope NO ONE would be surprised if their chicken breast and legs at home tested positive for something! Always follow good practices for cleaning and you will be fine. Let's not forget we touch all kinds of stuff ALL day long and I don't even want to think about what is on doors, bathrooms, water fountains, currency, ATM machines, credit card machines, etc. And let's not forget that dogs eat poop and other things out there - so their systems should be able to handle should they get some bacteria in them.