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31  Dry and Wet Foods / Kumpi / Re: Ingredients of Kumpi on: May 27, 2007, 11:52:32 AM
Michael,
The issue with me is not to make her "look bad," albeit if she does...she's doing it herself. To people who thrive on her 'style' of communication, of course she looks like a hero.

The issue is that she 'fills in' her answers with a lot of overly emotional, self-aggrandizing, while at the same time just 'grazing' the question at hand. I know that phoning her will result in the same kind of talk at our expense. And don't forget that after all...she admitted that some of the info wanted was "'proprietary," which many of us regard as BS.

Also, I suspect that this is her 'method' of 'sneaking in' advertising. But to me it's not all that sneaky.

Me and people like Sarah just want the transparent facts please. Straight forward, to the point, and without all the fluff.

32  Dry and Wet Foods / Evangers / Re: Evangers Canned Cat Food on: May 26, 2007, 09:46:44 PM
The kitty also eats dry cat food.
33  Recall Related Information / Recall News / Re: Public to comment on USDA's handling of melamine on: May 26, 2007, 09:42:02 PM
Conveniently, the comment page is now unavailable.
34  Recall Related Information / Recall News / Re: On Itchmo: Corn gluten w/Cyanuric acid intercepted in Canada on: May 26, 2007, 10:06:13 AM
You couldn't pay me to feed Hills...sick animal or not.

I think if you look at what the "good" ingredients are in that CD food...if there is such a thing...that is what your animal is thriving on. Then find a better food to duplicate those good ingredients...that's your ticket.
35  Recall Related Information / General Recall Discussion / Re: ANY SAFE FOOD OUT THERE? on: May 26, 2007, 10:02:53 AM
Are you sure about that?

They have removed it form the wet since last August.
36  Dry and Wet Foods / Innova / Re: Innova Senior and Lite for Cats on: May 26, 2007, 10:00:07 AM
Davis,
I can't remember, did you say you tried Evangers whole mackerel with this cat?
37  Recall Related Information / Recall News / Re: On Itchmo: Corn gluten w/Cyanuric acid intercepted in Canada on: May 26, 2007, 09:57:56 AM
I don't think so.
Basically it was just a matter of time waiting for something drastic to happen for us to "find out" what's REALLY in the food.
38  Dry and Wet Foods / Innova / Re: Innova Senior and Lite for Cats on: May 26, 2007, 09:55:34 AM
Ha...that must be why vets can't agree on whether protein is "hard on the kidneys" or not.
39  Dry and Wet Foods / Evangers / Re: Evangers Canned Cat Food on: May 26, 2007, 09:51:11 AM
We are actually supposed to start a new job with her again on the 28th. I will have my daughter note that info. for you when she goes that first day.
40  Dry and Wet Foods / Innova / Re: Innova Senior and Lite for Cats on: May 26, 2007, 09:49:31 AM
I've heard that "protein is hard on the kidneys" is old school.

It's even been discussed here on the forum that it's old school. I can't say since I have not experienced that yet (surprisingly!), but I do know that when I replaced my cats carbs with quality meat, their other health problems have gone away. The only thing I can't "cure" in my old one is her arthritis.
41  Recall Related Information / Rallies, Marches, Campaigns, etc. / Re: A Community Forum Re: Pet Nutrition Friday, May 18th! on: May 26, 2007, 09:45:12 AM
That's just it...many vets don't like to be "told" anything from their clients. It hurts their ego, pride, feelings....whatever. I'm very pro-active about health issues regarding both my animal and people family. I find that many of both kinds of doctors are bristled on many levels if you question the authenticity of what they say.

So, instead of listening to you, they tune it out, and consequently never learn anything from their clients. It's a sad state of affairs.
42  Dry and Wet Foods / Evangers / Re: Evangers Canned Cat Food on: May 25, 2007, 08:45:09 PM
Babs;
Do you have an updated version of Adobe?
43  Dry and Wet Foods / Innova / Re: Innova Senior and Lite for Cats on: May 25, 2007, 08:42:54 PM
Davis, yeah it's happening too often in cats now....I wonder now if that's THE thing that causes cats to die now.

I especially worry about rescued cats, since one can't know what kind of crap they were eating before you got them...you know?

One of my cats was born on a horse ranch rescue, and didn't come to live with us until she was 7 years old already. All the cats there were eating whatever was donated to them from the Target stores after they did inventory and took off the shelves "unsaleable" foods. The ranch owner would send somebody to pick up a truckload of that stuff every month.

If that was unavailable, then they got whatever the volunteers (who are mostly inexperienced at animal care) would bring along.

I used to buy the Kirkland's premium dry cat food for them when that happened, but that was only once in awhile. When I worked there, there was about 16 - 20 cats there at any one time.

Then one morning Luna came up to me and "asked" for help as she was severely infested with fleas and her hair was falling out. So here she is now 2 years later. She looks like a completely different cat...very healthy looking for one thing.

I wish somebody would do a study on CRF in cats to determine if that's what kills most of them eventually.
44  Cats / Cat Food Recipes / Re: Home made diet on: May 25, 2007, 05:45:13 PM
The argument could be made that they need the minerals that are in the dirt. My husband grew up very poor, and used to eat the "good" dirt that his Dad used to plant in trees with. It was determined later that he was mineral-deficient.
45  Dry and Wet Foods / California Natural / Re: Fat Kitties? on: May 25, 2007, 05:40:01 PM
Maybe....but I hear that outside cats always show up at milking times!
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