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31  Dry and Wet Foods / California Natural / Re: The Cal Nat controversy on: August 06, 2007, 07:16:17 AM
Hi Gary - Thanks for the tip. I just looked at Anergen. Unfortunately it's heavy on the herbs & also uses Garlic & Seafood oil.
don't tell "Doctor" Wysong that. He's liable to post a scathing rebuttal on his website.  Wink
Grin  LOL, that's about right.  I can see the page now:  "Rebuttal to Geff, from The Pet food List"

LOL!!
32  Miscellaneous / General chit chat / Re: Funny doggie cartoons on: August 05, 2007, 10:12:18 PM
Thanks to all of you! LOL
33  Dry and Wet Foods / California Natural / Re: The Cal Nat controversy on: August 05, 2007, 04:12:31 PM
FYI - Offy had to move the summary link from itchmo - ran out of room for uploading pictures.  Here is the new site:
http://offplanet.50megs.com/main.htm
34  Dry and Wet Foods / California Natural / Re: The Cal Nat controversy on: August 05, 2007, 03:14:35 PM
Geff, I know you have been looking for alternative pet foods that do not contain seafood.  I'm not sure what your other requirements are. 

My vet had mentioned to me that they could order some sort of prescription dry chicken and rice for my IBD cat.  I had thought it was IVD but I can't find any such food in the Royal Canin web page.  I checked the other brands the vet uses and couldn't find any listed on those either.  But maybe worth asking your vet about.

Otherwise, I'm not sure what brands you have tried.  I'm scanning through a document I threw together at the beginning of the recalls and I see the following with no fish:
Felidae Chicken & Rice Dry
Eagle Pack Holistic Select Duck & Oatmeal
35  Human Food Recalls & Other Issues / Human Food Recalls / Re: Green Bean Botulism on: August 05, 2007, 02:21:55 PM
Geez - it just doesn't stop!  Thanks for posting.
36  Dry and Wet Foods / Nature's Logic / Re: Nature's Logic on: August 05, 2007, 02:18:06 PM
I also don't like the ingredients in their food.  I don't believe that additional plasma from blood needs to be added to food and would want to see any tests that might support such an odd ingredient.  And Montmorillonite clay?  Why do my pets need to eat clay?
37  Dry and Wet Foods / California Natural / Re: The Cal Nat controversy on: August 05, 2007, 02:09:14 PM
What is so bad is Natura's handling of the situation.  I was supporting them early on and skeptical of the whole poison thing.  But I have called the company myself just asking basic nutrition questions about their Innova canned cat food and my inquiries were handled with the same indifference that those asking about the itcho situation were.   I was told a couple of times by Veronica that she would send me information and despite several follow up emails and phone calls I never received the promised information.  Their customer service is what is killing them here.  So, when I made the decision to switch dry foods for my dry addicted IBD cat, I chose Wellness Core over Natura's EVO (the EVO has a nasty powdery residue too).    And I was going to try the canned Cal Nat for the same cat and have decided against it.   What is too bad is that my IBD cat is now 'addicted' to their Innova canned cat food and does not seem  to want to change.  I will however continue to look for better options as I do not want to support this company - at least for now.

I, as many other regular itchmo posters, think there is a clear quality issue with some of the batches of food and believe those batches should be recalled.  I really don't know what to make of the poison issue - so won't even cover that.  However, the evidence is very clear from itcho that there is a quality issue with some of the food.  There is just too much evidence to the contrary.  And keep in mind, that those very same itchmo posters that you call 'cult like' are the very same that helped uncover things during the heat of the recalls.  I applaud their efforts even if I do not always agree.  I think they deserve our respect.

I agree that this can, and did, happen to other pet food companies.  The test is how they handle the situation when it does.  And Natura has been awful.  I am betting other companies are also watching the itchmo thread and are hopefully learning from their mistakes.
38  Recall Related Information / General Recall Discussion / Re: Almost On Topic Cartoon on: August 05, 2007, 02:02:02 PM
LOL!  Thanks for posting
39  Dry and Wet Foods / Wellness & Old Mother Hubbard / Re: Strictly Wellness on: August 04, 2007, 11:07:13 PM
Actually, Wellness has garlic in it - although they are quietly removing it due to customer complaints.
40  Dry and Wet Foods / Pet Promise / Re: Pet Promise Food on: August 04, 2007, 11:05:53 PM
And the stupid 'form letters' they send you when you have an inquiry.  That always really ticks me off.  Can't they even at least mention what you emailed them about? I figure if the local store isn't comfortable with them, neither am I.
41  Dry and Wet Foods / Wellness & Old Mother Hubbard / Re: Strictly Wellness on: August 03, 2007, 10:29:50 PM
Two cats eating the canned for a while now and doing really well.  My IBD cat has been eating Core for about 2 or 3 weeks.  He is loving it and it is helping him gain weight.  He eats a little canned food too, but not wellness.  I agree about the EVO - I used a sample back and it was all dusty.  Yuck.
42  Dry and Wet Foods / Pet Promise / Re: Pet Promise Food on: August 03, 2007, 10:26:59 PM
A local pet store stopped selling their food because they wouldn't answer questions about where it was made.  Seeing it is Purina  - I think that makes sense now!
43  Dry and Wet Foods / California Natural / Re: Cal Nat Ingredient Question on: August 03, 2007, 10:25:41 PM
Yep - that is it!
44  Dry and Wet Foods / California Natural / Re: Found hard black pieces in CN Dry cat food on: August 01, 2007, 07:15:50 AM
Hi - hope you don't mind but I posted a link to your post on itchmo.  They are trying to track all reports.  This is the first I have heard of chunks in cat food - someone else mentioned bits but from the description it sounded different.

Thanks
Jenny
45  Dry and Wet Foods / Innova / Re: Innova tested positive for toxins on: August 01, 2007, 05:22:01 AM
And I posted it in the other thread too, but here is a summary of findings so far from itchmo:
http://www.itchmoforums.com/news-recall-related/recap-gathered-information-on-innova-pictures-posts-tests-t1455.0.html
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