Thanks

. They have been eating in the bathroom, on the counter, since we've had them. We started them there because they've always been free fed and we had dogs(who have since passed over the bridge). One started being fed in the bedroom because he no longer tolerates the other cats very well, and the feeling is mutual. Healthwise, everything checks out. He simply preferred the dogs, and they are gone. We've tried to reintegrate him, but at his age, he's having nothing to do with it

! I've tried putting the food up at night, and set a schedule, but then the night feeder simply starves himself(very timid and highstrung Siamese).
As to the two who will try canned, I have tried them on raw, and yes, they'll eat a bit , two or three bites, but at least it's something

. Now you know why I wrote "hopefully" in the title

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