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61  Dry and Wet Foods / Nature's Variety / Re: Nature's Variety Product Withdrawal on: June 15, 2009, 04:31:58 PM
They test in batches and they exactly which batch was affected so I myself am not worried about it going any further.
62  Dry and Wet Foods / General Discussion about Dry and Wet Packaged Foods / Re: Premix Formulations Used In Commercial Pet Foods on: June 15, 2009, 01:55:04 PM
I did find these.
http://www.earthturns.com/Vaxa-Dog-Pet-Multivitamin-p/v812.htm
63  Dry and Wet Foods / General Discussion about Dry and Wet Packaged Foods / Re: Premix Formulations Used In Commercial Pet Foods on: June 15, 2009, 01:53:13 PM
There are very few vitamins that come from the US unfortunately. We just have to be extra careful on who the manufacturer is.
64  Dry and Wet Foods / Nature's Variety / Re: Nature's Variety Product Withdrawal on: June 15, 2009, 01:08:16 PM
I wonder if "nutrient dense" means too much zinc like Nutro's recall?  I wonder if Trouw's makes the vitamin pre-mix for NV? I wonder if the vitamin pre-mix is the problem even if it's another vitamin?  I wonder, I wonder, I wonder because they won't freaking state what the problem is!

They don't have the test results back yet.
65  Dry and Wet Foods / Nature's Variety / Re: Nature's Variety Product Withdrawal on: June 15, 2009, 01:06:58 PM
If you remember, they also voluntarily "withdrew" some dog food, I believe Instinct, a while ago.  The reason was "nutrient dense".  Excuse my ignorance but WTF does that mean?

I was feeding it at the time so I took it back.  When I gave the printed copy of the voluntary "withdrawal" to the rep at the pf store, she had not a clue what that meant.  Glad it wasn't just me. 

I do tend to be a bit cynical.......if something is wrong with a pf, no matter how "nutrient dense" it may be, I will no longer feed it. Angry

At least NV is doing something about it when they find a problem so they do get some Brownie points for that but now I'm a little nervous about feeding NV.  Tongue



The nutrient dense was exactly that. It was like feeding twice what you would normally feed. So if you fed 1 cup of food because of the density of the that batch it would be like feeding 2 cups. That could cause a gastro upset in some animals since its grain free and already nutrient dense to begin with. SO they withdrew it as soon as they knew about it. Unfortunately some made it to some stores but not much. They acted pretty quick on that one too.
66  Dry and Wet Foods / Nature's Variety / Re: Nature's Variety Product Withdrawal on: June 15, 2009, 01:03:17 PM
 This is awful, I wonder what the problems are with these foods?? I was just in a pet store today and the products were still on the shelves.  Angry Angry Angry

The products are still on the shelves because there is no problem with them. The ones they pulled never made it to the stores due to their stringent testing and them reacting immediately.
67  Dry and Wet Foods / Nature's Variety / Re: Nature's Variety Product Withdrawal on: June 15, 2009, 01:02:01 PM
Here we go again. They didn't have a recall. And there is a huge difference between recall and voluntary withdraw. They test their food at every level. Apparently it was not to their strict specifications. So they voluntarily withdrew it. It never made it to the stores because of their good quality control. I'm sure there will be more testing and the results will be available soon. I myself will not panic. I trust them. I still feed the raw and freeze dried. I will continue to do so.

What really sucks is if a company does the right thing, (test and pull something not right) they are chastised because of the problems other foods have had.

They also voluntarily withdrew the products last year because of their stringent testing. They got chastised then too.

So what is a company to do. If they have a problem and pull product they are chastised. if they don't they are chastised.  I myself will go with the company that is honest and tests and lets you know there is a problem. This product never made it to the stores. They really didn't have to tell anyone, yet they did. What does that tell you? It tells me they are honest and open and I myself trust them without any hesitation.
68  Cats / General Cat Health Discussion / Re: Please help me to help Rufus on: June 10, 2009, 12:01:25 PM
Very glad Rufus is doing better. Very good news.
69  Miscellaneous / General chit chat / Re: 20 cat deaths leave Fla. communities worried on: June 10, 2009, 11:57:50 AM
Another sicko on the loose. This is disturbing. If its not the food its the idiots in the neighborhood. These poor people. I feel so bad for them.
70  Dry and Wet Foods / Orijen / Re: Cat deaths linked to Orijen on: June 03, 2009, 11:52:20 PM
Champion removed it for damage control. They want everyone to forget. The less information available is better for them. The main reason we need to keep it forefront. They pissed me off a long ago and continue to do so. Disgust and anger are the tip of the iceberg. Those people remind me of a maggot.
71  Recall Related Information / General Recall Discussion / Re: Hello to all on: June 03, 2009, 11:49:04 PM
Welcome. We are glad to have you.
72  Recall Related Information / Recall News / Re: Chemnutra and It's Owners Plead Guilty on: June 03, 2009, 11:48:30 PM
I have to say, I am totally disgusted with this thing. If any one else did something like this they would in prison for a long time. To think these people did this knowingly and will get a slap on the wrist make me sick.  Angry
73  Other Pet Topics / Veterinary Medications / Palladia New FDA approved cancer treatment for dogs on: June 03, 2009, 09:45:21 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jx1TTx7oJffIjDyYdVdEX9nDJ3nwD98J8LU04
74  Dry and Wet Foods / Nutro / Re: RECALLS - What to do? on: June 01, 2009, 10:33:01 PM
 Angry
This was in the Veterinary Technician magazine:

Issue Date: Veterinary Technician
May 2009
(Vol 30, No 5)

FDA: Nutro Not Subject of Investigation

Paul Basilio
Paul Basilio is Associate Editor of Veterinary Forum and Veterinary Technician.

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FRANKLIN, Tenn. — Nutro Products, manufacturer of Nutro pet food, is not the subject of an investigation by the Food and Drug Administration Center for Veterinary Medicine (FDA CVM), the agency confirmed.

 

Citing several anonymous sources, ConsumerAffairs.com claimed that Nutro Products, owned by Mars Inc., had been the subject of an ongoing investigation by the FDA and was being targeted for potential criminal or civil investigation into the complaints.

 

The FDA normally does not confirm or deny ongoing or potential investigations, but Laura Alvey, spokesperson for the FDA, told Forum, “I can confirm that Nutro Products is not the subject of a current FDA investigation.”

 

After the story broke, Nutro officials contacted the FDA, according to Monica Barrett, pet specialty communication manager at Nutro Products. “This was the first we had heard about an investigation, so we followed up with our FDA contacts to find out if there was something going on. They confirmed there was no investigation,” she said. “We then put all of our information together and tried to reach out to ConsumerAffairs.com to clarify the situation. After submitting our statement [to the website], however, they posted another article that reiterated there was an investigation.”

 

“Our story speaks for itself,” said James R. Hood, CEO and editor-in-chief of ConsumerAffairs.com.

 

Nutro recently released a statement to the public to reassure consumers that the company’s products conform to the standards set by the FDA, the US Department of Agriculture and the Association of American Feed Control Officials.

 

A separate report published in February on ConsumerAffairs.com claimed that Nutro and another pet food manufacturer were the subjects of an impending class action lawsuit, but Barrett said no legal action has occurred. “After seeing [that] article, we contacted all parties who could have potentially been notified [by outside lawyers], such as our own attorneys,” she said. “There is no class action lawsuit. If it were happening, I don’t think we would find out about it on the Internet.”
75  Cats / General Cat Health Discussion / Re: Rufus is in the hospital on: May 31, 2009, 10:39:20 AM
Oh no... Please keep us posted on how he is doing.

Can't the vet treat for zinc toxicity and do the blood test later?
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