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Other Pet Topics / Pet First Aid & Emergency / ozonated olive oil, ozone
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on: December 27, 2008, 06:37:43 PM
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I have treated one of our rats with ozonated olive oil when she developed an abscess on her cheek. I applied this a few times and over night the (about 5mm large) node was gone. It came back moths later and the ozonated olive oil worked again.
Ozonated olive oil is cool. Becasue it is a natural anti-biotic that can be ingested (I made sure to get extra virgin olive oil as base) and is even given orally for therapeutic purposes.
Ozone gas is given to treat cancer (given into the rectum) and arthritis (injected into affected joints).
The oil smells for a while so sensitive animals might be offended when you apply the oil, but the smell dissipates pretty soon (within an hour for my nose).
I have ozonated olive oil in the fridge and share it with friends if their anmals can need it (dog, red itchy spot - it helped too). It lasts 'forever' in the fridge.
I know 1st or 2nd hand that the oil helps with fungi (nails) and viruses (herpes) and other skin problems.
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Dry and Wet Foods / General Discussion about Dry and Wet Packaged Foods / Re: Organic is not always organic
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on: December 25, 2008, 05:57:12 PM
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I make it mainly from scratch. We humans in our house are semi-raw fooders and buy only a few processed (but cert. organic) convenience foods for ourselves. The rest is certified organic real food which we share with our guys. Understandably, I spend some time in the kitchen, but I believe it is worthwhile, and some can be prepared in advance, while others just needs some chopping or planning. We buy some cert. organic convenience treats for our dogs, chinchilla, rats, and birds. We buy some certified organic bird pellets which we have for emergencies. Is there a special place on this forum where I can put the company names for these cert organic commercial pet food/treat suppliers, I didn't see any treat suppliers listed?
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Forum Issues / Suggestions for new boards / Re: New Board Suggestions
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on: December 25, 2008, 11:37:00 AM
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What about a discussion board for pet food ingredients?
There one could discuss for example, why most pets should not have honey or other sugars in their regular diet, what's new on the allergy ingredient front (e.g., hydrogenated proteins), if cats should eat fruits regularly, what the dangers of refined ingredients are (such as white flours, table salt), why kelp may not always be a good choice, ...
Maybe I did not find the right place yet and this is being discussed already in an existing forum?
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Pet Products and Resources (NOT foods) / Vitamins and other supplements / Re: Vitamins
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on: December 25, 2008, 11:27:57 AM
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I agree with much of these last posts. I also don't believe that any commercial food can be 'nutritionally balanced' even if manufacturers added the 'recommended' nutrient levels with high quality supps (alone because animals are not clones). We too give supplements to our animals when they need it; since we practice targeted supplementation, we can afford the best available supplements for these occasions. Fortunately, we also have a good vet who gives us guidance on what to supplement with for what condition. We've had amazing results with a few such supp treatments.
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Recall Related Information / Kudos / Re: Thanks Honest Kitchen
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on: December 23, 2008, 11:53:46 PM
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careful about some of the HK's ingredients - for example, honey isn't supposed to be a food that should be eaten all the time.
Also, I'd never feed only one food (or brand) to our animals (several species) - variety is important to cover al nutritional bases.
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Pet Products and Resources (NOT foods) / Vitamins and other supplements / Re: Vitamins
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on: December 23, 2008, 04:42:44 PM
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I am not sure if it is necessary to add a multi to a high quality diet. High quality food should provide nutrients; food variety is a must. Most multis (and single vits/minerals) are not prepared with care (often in China) and made artificially which is a problem for animals (and humans) to assimilate.
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Raw Foods / General Discussion about Raw Foods / Re: Do you feed raw to your pets?
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on: December 23, 2008, 04:40:17 PM
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I think some problems with feeding raw comes because we humans are so sceptical about it! With the nagging subconscious feeling the scares of anti-raw people have left in us, we unconsciously serve the new raw food with a negative feeling to our pets........... and as we all know, they pick up our emotions much better than most of us can and respond accordingly - with caution! A cat (and dog) should jump at a food that is raw and mainly (high quality) meat!
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Raw Foods / General Discussion about Raw Foods / Re: Supplements for home made diets
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on: December 23, 2008, 04:35:47 PM
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Most presently available supplements are of LOW quality (many made in China! many from genetically engineered plants - e.g., vit E, or synthetic which is a far cry from what is beneficial). I am for supplementation with quality supplements (if available whole food based) if needed. High quality food (certified organic) has more nutrients (vitamins, antioxidants, minerals) than the conventional ones, industry farming forces out of the soil with petrochemicals and little love and care.
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Raw Foods / General Discussion about Raw Foods / Re: Article on Raw Food
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on: December 23, 2008, 04:30:40 PM
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so strange that there is still is even a question! I have never seen an animal cook their food! And feeding trials as they are done in labs have little to do with real life. I wish people'd actually SEE how lab animals (dogs and cats included) are kept in labs. I know of only one lab that works on FIV, where they pay people to play with their cats regularly. The majority of labs: Artificial light, tap water (which is a problem in much of the US, esp. in cities where most labs are located), concrete floor, maybe a toy?, bars, and stainless steel crates to ship them form their housing to the lab. How does this compare to the pets of people who care about them? How can nutritionists be the level headed persons who determine what nutrient levels each of our so different animals require? Why not give real food and supplement as needed individually with *quality* ingredients and not chemicals out of a barrel that should fit the needs of every dog and cat out there?
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Dry and Wet Foods / General Discussion about Dry and Wet Packaged Foods / Re: Organic is not always organic
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on: December 18, 2008, 05:43:38 PM
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In contrast to the 95% certified organic pet foods, the remaining 30% of ingredients of "made with organic" pet foods contain non-certified organic ingredients, but what about GMO ingredients? (GMOs are an absolute no-no for 100% and 95% certified organic pet foods). -------------- Good news - the QAI person I just spoke to confirmed my hopes (although she hesitated): No GMOs are allowed in any certified organic pet foods. This makes sense to me.
Although we only buy (certified) organic pet foods (95% or 100% organic) this is good to know.... We like the 95% and more pet foods because this way we exclude the toxins that come with conventional ingredients (pesticides etc).
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Dry and Wet Foods / General Discussion about Dry and Wet Packaged Foods / Re: Organic is not always organic
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on: December 18, 2008, 05:27:25 PM
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What I didn't find out yet from the QAI or USDA is how far the inspection goes for the 'made with organic ingredients' (certified 70% organic) pet foods: I know that the organic ingredients are checked for their organic status, quantity, sources, and that they have to be handled to preserve their organic state, etc., but then what?
After the 70% organic ingredients are mixed with the non-organic 30%, what's going to happen? I guess that the manufacturer still can't use pesticides and toxic chemicals (as they are even allowed for human food manufacture!) around the products and ingredients because otherwise the organic ingredients would be impacted.
In contrast to the 95% certified organic pet foods, the remaining 30% of ingredients of "made with organic" pet foods contain non-certified organic ingredients, but what about GMO ingredients? (GMOs are an absolute no-no for 100% and 95% certified organic pet foods).
Does anybody know? Otherwise I'll come back with any info I might get on this from QAI after bugging them again.
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